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Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
08. Juli 2011 um 18:02
 
Bin auf's Neue mit dem Latein am Ende

Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob die echt ist. Fortsetzung folgt...



Hello! I saw your profile and got very interested to know you better. My e-mail is
natusiksosinki@yandex.ru. Please, let me know if you are interested in closer
communication.
Have a nice day!
Nataly

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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #1 - 08. Juli 2011 um 18:21
 
Interessantes Briefchen

Für scammer eher untypisch.
Täte mir leid, wenn ich jetzt jemandem Unrecht tue, aber...



Hello, xxxxxxxx
I’m very glad to receive your answer. When I saw your profile on the web-site, I felt that
you are very kind and honest, intelligent man. And also very attractive!
As far as you know already, my name is Natalie, I'm 39 years old. I live in Russia,
Chelyabinsk and was born in here. It is a small industrial town. Well, small for Russian
measurements! We have here few interesting places, such as statue of Left-handed which
has very interesting legend about it. You shouldn’t have any problems with finding it on-line
if you will be interested. Have you ever thought about visiting Russia, xxxxxxxx? Have you
ever visited any countries? Which ones? What did impressed you the most there?
My parents are living in village. They decided they want calm simple rural life. Me and my
brother stayed to live here (separately, of course). I have two wonderful daughters – 14
and 20. I love them very much and very proud of them. My older daughter is studying at
very good University for being architecture. She is very talented in what she is going to do
for living. She is absolutely independent girl, has serious relations with her boyfriend. The
young one goes to school. They are very positive thinking and friendly girls. Do you have
kids, xxxxxxxx? How many? Tell me more about them, please. It would be very interesting
for me.
I have education as Social worker, as you can tell I live to help people and to support them
in hard times. Tell me more about your professional occupation, Matthias? Do you like it? I
like to be needed. I love to learn new things, especially in psychology and history. I love
reading, different crafts such as embroidering, sewing clothes (I sew clothes for myself and
my daughters sometimes), weaving beads. As you can see, I like to create thing by my
own hands and imagination, has good taste. I love to be on nature, feel myself very calm
and peaceful there, seeing all its beauty. Also our dog makes me company very often, I
love pets. Maybe that’s why one of my two jobs is a manager at pet store. I really enjoy
communication with all kinds of animals. My second job is a manager at Department of Fire
Protection. Write me more about you hobbies, xxxxxxxx. What do you like to do? What do
you like to read? Do you like to watch movies?
I’m normal, calm woman, I enjoy myself and like to have fun or to spend calm evenings at
home. Unfortunately, my daughters are growing up and they don’t need me so much any
more in their lives. Also I’ve always felt sad that I don’t have honest, trustful man with me,
someone about whom I will care, love him and support, share all happy and sad moments of
life. And who will return all that to me. With whom we will treat each other with respect,
love and understanding. I got divorced 11 years ago and felt emptiness as woman since
than. Though, my ex-husband isn’t a bad person, we are just wrong for each other. So, we
decided to divorce before it would come moment that we would become enemies. He is
married now and very happy. And I’m glad for him. But I believe that I can be happy too. I
feel that there is a man in the world who is my half, my soul mate, my future best friend,
life partner and lover. With whom we would have strong, warm, wonderful family. I want
simple woman happiness. We do have nice men in Russia, but I have different views about
relations between man and woman, than they do. That’s why I decided to look for my half
abroad. Do you understand me, xxxxxxxx?
I’m very glad that you decided to write to me, and want to communicate. I hope that this
communication will be pleasant and interesting for both of us. I’m very excited to know you
better, xxxxxxxx.
I’m waiting for your letter very much. With warmest wishes and thoughts,
Natalie.
P.S. I wouldn’t want to confuse you, but my verbal English isn’t as clear as written one.
Unfortunately, I have never had any chance to communicate with people from another
country. Well, I did communicate with Italians and Turkish people when I had a trip to
Turkey once and we understood each other quite good. I know I need to improve my
language and I’m ready to work on that. And as you can tell, I’m hard worker. I hope you
will understand my confusion and would be patient. Thank you from the beginning.


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...kind and honest, intelligent man. And also very attractive!


Sehr schöne Analyse meiner Persönlichkeit!



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Antwort #2 - 08. Juli 2011 um 18:21
 
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #3 - 08. Juli 2011 um 20:20
 
Zitat:
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Smiley

Zitat:

I live in Russia,
Chelyabinsk




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Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:39:40 +0400
From: Tartishnaya Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>


Smiley Smiley
  
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #4 - 09. Juli 2011 um 10:03
 
Weitere Infos

Profil unter http://freepersonals.ru/profile?id=403921;pid=849807


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Profile ID: 403921 
Last logged: 2 hour(s) 
Registered: Jun 19, 2011 
Updated: Jun 19, 2011 
Name: Nataly 
Country: Russian Federation  
State/region: Cheljabinsk 
City: Cheljabinsk 
Marital status: Divorced 
Date of birth: Nov 4, 1971 
Age: 39 
Zodiac sign: Scorpio  
Religion: Christian 
Height: 5'3" (1 m 61 cm) 
Weight: 140lbs (63.5 kg) 
Hair: Brown 
Eyes: Gray 
Children: One 
Education: Social worker 
Occupation: Manager 
Languages: English, Russian 
Smoking: No 
Drinking: No 

Self description:
Hello. I'm glad to see you on my profile. Let me tell you a little bit about me. I'm simple
normal woman, who wants to love and be loved. I'm independent and know what I want.
However, I'm very soft and careful with my partner, and I will always need him in my life.
I can be serious when it's necessary and have fun when it's time for fun. I'm very honest
and trustful person, patient, have good sense of humor, very flexible. I have traditional
values and easy going personality. I love to learn new things and will always treat my
partner as the only one special man in my life. Would you like to know me better? I would
love to know you for sure! 

Partner description:
I'm looking for THE MAN of my life, the one who would treat me as his equal. The one who
will be my life partner, my true half, best friend and only one lover. I'm not looking for
ticket out of Russia or star from the sky, or Prince Charming (though my man will always be
Prince Charming for me no matter how does he look like). I'm not playing any games on this
site. I'm looking for my man with whom I'll be happy no matter where. For whom I'm ready
to work to make him happy and would expect him to work to make happy me. Who will love
me, understand, care about me, trust me and appreciate. And who will accept the same
from me in return. Maybe it's you? Let's communicate and find out.

Age from 39 to 57 years old

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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #5 - 11. Juli 2011 um 15:28
 
Bei dem Foto DSC05534.jpg  ist das Bearbeitungsdatum vor dem Aufnahmedatum. Entweder stimtme das Kameradatum nicht oder die Exif ist gefälscht und Vlad hat nicht richtig aufgepasst.

Die Mail kommt über Internet-Telefonie ins Netz in den USA! Da ich BellSouth nicht in Russland nachweisen konnte, müsste da dann jemand eine teure Auslandsverbindung gemacht haben oder  hat einen Rechenr ind en USA gekapert. Bei meinem Provider sind Auslandstarife deutlich teurere als Inlandstarife.
  
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Antwort #6 - 12. Juli 2011 um 14:28
 
Uli schrieb on 11. Juli 2011 um 15:28:
Bei dem Foto DSC05534.jpg  ist das Bearbeitungsdatum vor dem Aufnahmedatum. Entweder stimtme das Kameradatum nicht oder die Exif ist gefälscht und Vlad hat nicht richtig aufgepasst.

Die Mail kommt über Internet-Telefonie ins Netz in den USA! Da ich BellSouth nicht in Russland nachweisen konnte, müsste da dann jemand eine teure Auslandsverbindung gemacht haben oder  hat einen Rechenr ind en USA gekapert. Bei meinem Provider sind Auslandstarife deutlich teurere als Inlandstarife.



Na gut. Zusammen mit der Analyse der nächsten mail, muss man/frau wohl hier einen scammer annehmen, der aber seinen "Beruf" ernstnimmt!
  
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #7 - 12. Juli 2011 um 14:45
 
Mystischer Esoterik-Unfuch

Im Profil ist die Person noch social worker von Beruf.
Jetzt ist er/sie/es child psychologist. Der/Die/Das letztere
sollte wissen, dass es im Englischen KEINE zoo psychology
gibt, sondern nur animal psychology.



Hi, xxxxxxxx.
I was glad to receive your letter. xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxx xxxxxx
xxxxxx xxxxxx. I love to read fantasy books. I like reading a description of any animal
they think about why it is such. What are the environmental conditions led to the
emergence of such form of life. By education I am a child psychologist, but I like
zoo psychology
. I love animals. I worked as a salesman at the pet store.
People often can't understand why a cat or a dog do something. I like to explain this to
people. Some of them  then come again to my store and talk about their pets.
I help people to understand animals, and, instead of being angry, people understand
why an animal behaves in certain ways.
I was more attracted by the philosophy of esotericism. I believe that everything in the
world is interconnected on a subtle level. I have only been studying this area of philosophy,
while esoteric long fascinated. I like the movie "What Dreams May Come." Postulate
that "we create for ourselves a hell or heaven," I am very impressed. (Yes, I am a
mystic Smiley )
As you know, I have two daughters, 20 and 14 years. The eldest is studying at university
architect. The youngest student in middle level schools. She is one of the best pupils in the
classroom. She enjoys biology. She would like to explore the future of wolves. This is a
very noble beasts. You know that the alpha wolves pose mate for life? They are very
serious about family. I think people should learn this.
My daughter loved to ride in open-air museum Arch. It is located at 7-10 hours by car from
my home town. I like ancient history, but there now have created a complex of museums.
Unfortunately, we rarely get to visit there. xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx
xxxxx xxxxx, xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx?
I'm tired of being alone. I want to share your life with somebody, you take me as an equal,
who will be my friend, lover, companion. I know that my man is for me the best, most
beautiful. No matter how it will evaluate other.
I am calm, but I do not like to sit in one place. I love to joke and laugh, but I love and
quietly walk in the woods, looking at the beauty of nature. I love learning something new,
like learning. Really do not like to sit around, my hands are always busy with something. I'm
temperamental, but I can't stand screaming and quarreling. I like to dress sporty and
feminine soft dress. I'm different, but try to stay predictable. I love to live and do not like
to survive. My kids are big already and I want to meet a man with whom I live, loved and
happy.
Good day to you. Waiting for your letter very much
with warmest wishes and thoughts
Nataly


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Antwort #8 - 12. Juli 2011 um 14:46
 
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Antwort #9 - 08. September 2011 um 18:08
 
Es kam gerade diese Mail, die ich mit meiner Antwort hier veröffentliche. Da die Headerinformationen den dargestellten Sachverhalt zulassen, kommt der Thread bis zur Klärung zunächst aus der Öffentlichkeit heraus.

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Hi Anna,

I reviewed the information you gave and it looks possible. But to be sure that you are not a scammer (sorry, but scammers try to clean their reputation with letters like this), please send a copy of your passport.
First I will put this thread in a non-visible area and if I have the knowledge about your reality, I will delete ist.

Sorry for doing it in this way, but we try to help possible victims of scam. And if there is a russian person sending mails with an american provider, usually it's scam. I ask for your understanding for this way.

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Am 08.09.2011 17:47, schrieb Anna:
> Subject: my friend was blamed for nothing
> Name: Anna
> Email: galadriel1982@mail.ru
> IP Address: 98.82.87.11
> Message: 
> Good day to your entire site. I saw some strange information about my friend on your site. I want to assure you that it was very sad mistake. She is honest woman and not scammer, she is looking for her family happiness, she is not interested in money. Let me to explain you how did it happen that man posted information about her here. I live in the USA (you probably can say that from my computer’s address). I have diploma as translator. Nataly asked me two times or so to check grammatical rules in her letters, only few of them. I didn’t change meaning of them, neither add anything from myself. Why would I do that? She is my friend and I wish her to find good man and to be happy by all my heart. I didn’t have possibility to read letters from her men and I wouldn’t do it anyway. She works a lot and need to go to work. So, she asked me after correction to send these few letters to correct dresses from her e-mail box. I had only necessary electronic addresses of few men, her address and password. She doesn’t keep correspondence in her box, so even if I would be different person and would want to read letters to her – I wouldn’t be able to do it. She asked me about that only twice and I know that she didn’t write about my help to her men. She simply didn’t see point to do so because after those couple of times she wrote all her letters by herself without my help and I know she wasn’t going to ask me about help any more. She is real woman, information which she had in her profile is real, photos are real. I’m sure you will understand that it’s just bad coincidence. She shouldn’t be on your site, she is not scammer at all. Please, don’t break her life and delete information about her from your web-site. She is honest real woman who is seeking for personal happiness and nothing else. Here is link on her information http://anti-scam.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1310140968/4
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #10 - 08. September 2011 um 18:14
 
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Also das Englisch, liest sich nach Übersetzungsprogramm  unentschlossen
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #11 - 08. September 2011 um 18:20
 
Hat jemand einen Account bei Mail.ru? Mehr Infos kam man nur als registriertes Mitglied erhalten - und dann auch noch auf russisch. Es gibt dort vielleicht ein Profil mit dem eMail-Namen aus Antwort #9, also von der netten Freundin, die nur geholfen hat.

http://my.mail.ru/mail/galadriel1982/

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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #12 - 08. September 2011 um 18:25
 
Headhunter schrieb on 08. September 2011 um 18:14:
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also das Englisch, liest sie nach Übersetzungsprogramm  unentschlossen

Darum soll sie ja auch eine Passkopie senden. Auch frage ich mich, ob sie nun Anna oder Kseniya heißt.

Auch wenn wir diesen Beitrag für einige Tage aus der Öffentlichkeit nehmen, Google hat die Adresse bereits. Daher kann die Adresse gegoogelt werden und auch bei einem Nichtfund hoffentlich zu einem Aufsteigen des Gehirns in höhere Regionen führen.
  
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #13 - 08. September 2011 um 18:39
 
Bommo schrieb on 08. September 2011 um 18:20:
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hab ich!

könnt ihr das aufmachen?

im Profil, kann ich nicht mehr sehen! nur für Freunde!
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Re: Nataly <natusiksosinki@yandex.ru>
Antwort #14 - 08. September 2011 um 19:52
 
Hier gibt es bereits ein Forum wo sie ihre Geschichte gepostet hat.

http://forum.antidate.org/index.php?showtopic=16689&st=30
  
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