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Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
10. März 2009 um 18:30
 

Hallo an alle!
Ich fange hiermit mit meiner Geschichte!
Mitte Februar habe ich eine E-Mail erhalten von der Konfeta777 (Nadezhda Travina)



hier ist ihr Profil:

http://absoluteagency.com/absolute_personals/konfeta777.html

oder suche-love das ist die gleiche Seite.Hab mich dort vor ein Jahr angemeldet.Und dachte dazu ich finde mein Glück endlich im meinem Leben Augenrollen

Das ist der erste Brief den ich erhalten habe auf englisch:

Hello my new friend Josef. I am happy to receive your answer and to write to you this letter.
how are you ? I want to tell you I search for the satellite in a life. what 
are you looking for the internet ? It is my first experience here, and I to
want to meet really sincere and serious the man.
I want to say you more about me . I was born in city Tyumen. it is the 
north of Russia. Now i live in two with my pa in city Azanovo . my ma to
live in Moscow and she has a no contact with us . she leaves when me
was 21. presently me 28 years . my weight 53-55 kgs.
my growing approximately 171-173cm . my mother plenty of drink the
alcohol earlier and leave from us . my pa to do all for me . he gives
me to learn in institute . to pay for my education . now I work in
school by teacher of the drawing. 
I gave my profile in internet since I not to want to have a relations
with man from russia . they not to respect the woman and not to know
how to give him weasel . I had a relations with person from russia 3
back , then he defrauded me and I heard that he has other girl . I
much suffered , but afterwards all ok . I very good and supportive .
but not to love when me to defraud and not to respect Smiley . I want to
have a serious relations and not to play in plays . I not much well
speak on english , but I teach this.
Have you ever been involved in a serious  relationship? When you are
married, do you want to be a working mother, or will you stay at home
to look after the children? Do you think a husband and a wife have
specific roles in a marriage? What are some of your favorite
activities? 
Do you like sports? What do you do to stay fit? Do you often go to
movies, or museums? What is your favorite kind of music? Do you like to dance?
What is your favorite holiday? What one place in the world that you have never
been to would you like to see . I hope to hear from you soon .
Please send me more photos!
I consider that we only shall else hear each other , but soon our
relations will become more serious and more warm with you . I see you as the very
nice man and I want to try to have a relations with you. 
take care , write me soon and send me your pics please .
Respectfully yours, Nadezhda

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Re: Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
Antwort #1 - 10. März 2009 um 18:38
 
Hier mal die Daten von ihre E-Mail Adresse:

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:40:04 +0300
From: NadezhdaT <Lediigra@mail.ru>
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hier ist der zweite Brief von ihr:

My lovely friend Josef.
I to receive letters from you and I very much to be pleased to this a case! Josef I hope
That my record is clear to you and you are good to understand me as well as I to you. You
Know, for the small period of the correspondence with you has already understood, that you began
Part from my life. Without your letter in me there is no day of pleasure within day, but
As I to receive your letter, mine the life is filled with pleasure. I with big
Pleasure to look at your photos. Josef, I think that at us with you is much in common. 
My friend what feelings and intentions at you to me? I to think, that
Internet this big achievement, as people from two other ends of a planet
Can communicate with each other freely, that I have got acquainted with such person
As you already because of it only I should inform in Internet many gratitude.
Josef please tell to me all about you? Than you are engaged
Within all day. I should tell to you Josef I always to think of you,
I all time to expect the moment when I after work shall be
To visit Internet-cafe, to receive yours the lovely letter and to write to you. It gives me
Huge pleasure. 
Unfortunately my time in Internet-cafe comes to the end. Record it is necessary for me!
Yours faithfully Nadezhda.


Der dritte Brief:

Hello my kitten Josef:). Forgive that I to not write to you, I could not come in Intenet.
I as always expected your letter mine Josef and I am happy that you to write to me. I
I think that you not against in that that I to name you a kitten:)? Mine girlfriends on
To work speak me that I became now absent-minded, speak that I have fallen in love
, I to not know what to answer them as I to not understand what to occur to me and I
All time to think of you. Josef you now began really a part my life and
I only to think of you and I really to have to you only the most gentle
Feelings and I very much to want that ours with you relations began really very much
Serious and strong and soon a meeting with you. My father as all time
To ask about you. he to understand that I to want to be together with you and he very much
To want it as. I to speak about you with him much, he to count you are serious
The person and he very much to respect you Josef. I already spoke that I have found out the person
In which Internet searched, and this person you Josef. tell to me please
Whether fairly, probably that our feelings are reciprocity? I very much to want that it
Was so because I very to want to have serious relations with you my lovely
Josef and to hope for it. Now I to change not much and mine heart to beat not
In regular intervals. Probably I to be mad, but I to want to tell to you that you are
Part mine a life now and I to not represent me it without you. It is very important for me
To learn your feelings to me and I is simple now in alarm for it!
Josef I very much hope that you are really
The man with which I can lead the rest my life. You very beautiful and clever
The man and I at all do not know what exactly of me draws to you, but it so!
Please write to me soon.
With tenderness, yours Nadezhda.



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Re: Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
Antwort #2 - 10. März 2009 um 18:44
 
@ Minos!

Es ist zu 100 % Scam! Internet-Cafe und ein süsses Säugetierchen! Bingo!

Zitat:
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:40:04 +0300
From: NadezhdaT <Lediigra@mail.ru>
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Reply-To: NadezhdaT <Lediigra@mail.ru>


Code
Alles auswählen
IPv4-adress:  85.26.161.209

inetnum:    85.26.160.0 - 85.26.163.255
netname:    MF-MGSM
descr:    OJSC MSS-Povolzhe network - GPRS Access Pool No. 2
country:    RU
admin-c:    OAY-RIPE
tech-c:   OAY-RIPE
status:   ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:   MEGAFON-RIPE-MNT
mnt-by:   MGSM-MNT
mnt-routes:   MGSM-MNT
mnt-lower:  MGSM-MNT
mnt-domains:  MGSM-MNT

person:   Oleg A. Yurlov
address:    Oleg A. Yurlov
address:    115035 30, Kadashevskaya emb.
address:    Moscow, Russian Federation
phone:    +7 926 2002314
fax-no:   +7 495 9801939
e-mail:   OYurlov@MegaFon.RU
nic-hdl:    OAY-RIPE
mnt-by:   MEGAFON-RIPE-MNT

route:    85.26.160.0/22
descr:    OJSC MSS-Povolzhe network
origin:   AS31133
mnt-by:   MGSM-MNT 



Treffer versenkt! Grüße Stefan ... Smiley
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Re: Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
Antwort #3 - 10. März 2009 um 18:54
 
@ Meier1166!

Danke Dir Stefan für die schnelle antwort!Gut daß es so ein Forum gibt!!!

also der vierte Brief ist uninteressant aber beim fünften geht es los:

My Josef
I to thank you for your letter.
How you? How your mood?
When I have read your letter in me tears of pleasure have appeared,
As I to see as we are necessary each other.
Today I all the day long to be engaged about the visa.
The visa will be ready in 6-9 days, I to make affairs much. 
As I have prepared not for the big gift to you, certainly I shall not speak now about it,
But I think that it is pleasant to you.
Lovely, I to want soon a meeting with you and it to do me exciting.
I to represent you at the airport with a small amount of roses.
It is lovely dream.
My Josef I to have a small problem, me to not suffice 430 Euro on the visa and the ticket.
My honey Josef you can to me the help?
I to learn there is very convenient and safe way of transfer of money.
It is system WesternUnion, my full data will be necessary for this purpose as for you:
Russia, Mari-El, Azanovo
Lenin Street 43 ap.12.
Nadezhda Travina
It is necessary tomorrow within day.
I to hope, that tomorrow I can finally finish the order the visa and only wait for reception.
Now I very much to get tired and go home to talk with the daddy.
Write to me soon. With love and a gentle kiss, yours Nadezhda


Hab bischen im Internet so nachgeforscht ca.vier Stunden und habe dieses entdeckt:

http://www.russian-detective.com/black_lists/individ/fedorovskaya/travina_nadezh...

und hier noch was dazu:

http://www.womenrussia.com/blackpage449.htm

Dachte ich sehe nicht richtig!Die gleichen Briefe!!!
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Antwort #4 - 10. März 2009 um 19:12
 
@ Minos!

Frage sie doch mal bitte nach dem Postindex (Postleitzahl)?

Das Dorf 'Азаново' und liegt ca. 26 km Östlich von Yoshkar-Ola!

Zitat:
Марий Эл Республика, Медведевский Район, Азаново Село


Leider finde ich dort keine Lenin Strasse 43 sonder nur diese:

Zitat:
Республика Марий Эл; Медведевский Район, Азаново Село:

Больничный Улица       425225  
Гагарина Улица            425225  
Заречная Улица           425225 
Зеленая Улица             425225  
Лесная Улица               425225  
Молодежная Улица       425225 
Октябрьская Улица       425225  
Советская Улица           425225 
Фабричная Улица          425225  
Центральная Улица       425225 
Якова Эшпая Улица      425225


Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Grüße Stefan ... Smiley
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Re: Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
Antwort #5 - 10. März 2009 um 19:28
 
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Hallo Stefan,
werd ich noch machen!
Ich hab zu ihr gesagt daß ich das Geld schicken werde!(hab es aber nicht gemacht) weil ich den Kontakt noch zu ihr habe.Und ich habe es auch geschafft daß sie mir den Paß kopiert.Ich habe mir den Paß Stunden lang angeschaut und deshalb hab ich die falschen Sachen auch makiert
auf dem Paß! 
(Fotos werden noch vom Webmaster eingesetzt) Danke

Hier ist noch ein Brief dazu!

Hello my new friend Josef.
I should tell to you, how many pleasures to me allow your letter! Now I
I understand that people in your country really responsible. I very much love your image! 
You undoubtedly beautiful the man. I directly would like to learn
More about you to learn your interests as you live as you work also answers to my questions of the last letter. 
At me not poorly important for me - you to have a question still any other girls,
With which you correspond?
I am very glad to have such friend, as you. I very kind person and I very much
It is responsible in my work. By school, I help people to be beautiful and to change appearance
In the good party. People leave from my interior happy and to me too to have
Happiness then. As I deal with the account of money and I should not be mistaken in it
To not have a problem with the chief. I think that the person should communicate with
Colleagues to have the good relation and respect in work.
In my life there was a lot of pleasure, but except for they be pleasures always in
Constant number more sad events. I never had the husband and to not have
Children, but I very much to want to have it, but only from the person with which my love
Will be mutual and that the child to be happy. And you? The basic characteristics
Human symbol, I think sincerity, kindness, politeness and as I think,
That it is necessary for person to be the decent citizen about love to the country.
dear Josef I very much to want to have serious relations, I to want to receive caress
And tenderness from the person which will be together with me. Now I very lonely and
To not suffice me it in a life. I very much hope that we with you can
It is really good to understand each other, and to create serious relations and with
You dear Josef. I very much frequently see young pairs, I see as they are happy, I
It is sincerely glad for them, but thus I to remain the person TO NOT LIKE. At
Me some time was one friend, but little bit sad history back, I shall be
Possible it should be informed you on it little bit later. Certainly with you I
To want to have serious relations and soon a meeting really to do
Strong our relation. I to think that through the letter and phone we can very little
To learn each other but if we are really sure in us it is necessary for us
To meet you Josef.
On it I also should finish the letter to you, and with impatience I should count to hear from you
The letter.
Yours faithfully, Nadezhda.

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Re: Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
Antwort #6 - 10. März 2009 um 19:35
 
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Hallo Stefan,
hab hier noch was gefunden:

Lovely I to understand, that you to have problems with your boss.
But at what here I? I ask you to concern to me as with understanding.
You to lose my full data?
Russia, republic Mari-El, Azanovo post-code 425225
Lenin Street 43 ap.12. Nadezhda Travina 
I to wait for your answer. What is the time it is necessary for this purpose to you?
Yours and only yours Nadezhda. Kiss.

Ich hab sie schon fünf mal gefragt wegen einer Telefonnummer. Sie sagte dazu das
ihr Telefon am Sylvester geklaut worden ist und sie hat kein Handy. Bei dieser Frage
jedesmal sucht sie einen Ausweg! Komisch!


Grüße
Josef
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Antwort #7 - 10. März 2009 um 19:43
 
Hier noch eine E-Mail,weil ich geschrieben habe daß ich das Geld überwiesen habe  Laut lachend

My love Josef,
I again in Internet and at me not so good news.
Unique the bank which is in Azanovo is closed and moves in capital.
I very much was upset. Now I need to go in capital to receive your money. 
Lovely, now you need to go urgently in WesternUnion and to change Azanovo to city Yoshkar-Ola or that to not write.
I hoped to order the visa today and consequently I ask you to hurry up.
I shall wait not a lot of for your answer. Then to go in Yoshkar - Ola. To hope, you to answer and go to bank.
I love you. Very to worry, as for me to wait in a visa department on Saturday.
With love, yours Nadezhda



Good morning my lovely!
I and thought, that you to work and to not receive my letter in time.
Lovely, I went yesterday in capital Yoshkar-Ola.
Because WesternUnion has moved there. In Azanovo now is not present WesternUnion.
Therefore I could not receive money.
You need to change the data of translation into city Yoshkar-Ola.
Oh lovely, how many difficulties that we to be together.
But that it was easier to overcome these difficulties, I constantly to think of you.
I love you and to want to appear soon near to you.
With love, yours Nadezhda
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Antwort #8 - 10. März 2009 um 19:57
 
@ Minos!

Hinweise mit Google Earth und meinen Stadtplan und die Mari-El-Karte:
Das Dorf liegt bei den Koordinaten: 56°43'18.34" N und 48°13'19.01" O!
Aber in einem Dorf von dieser Grösse gibt es bestimmt keine Haus-Num-
mer 43, die gibt es in Yoshkar-Ola, wo der Brief auch landen wird mit der
gefaketen Angabe der Adresse! In YO ist es 56°37'56.30" N und genau bei
47°52'48.29" O! Nun hat das Haus auch die richtige Grösse für 12 oder 16
Wohnungen! Somit überrascht uns mal wieder gar nichts! Oder?! Bingo!

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Grüße Stefan ... Smiley
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Antwort #9 - 10. März 2009 um 20:18
 
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Hallo Stefan,
danke für Deine zusätzliche Infos hier!Klasse!!

Jetzt hab ich ihr angeboten daß ich zu ihr komme und sie ist damit einverstanden!Seltsam!!!
Hab wieder danach gefragt wegen eine Telefonnummer aber dieses Thema lehnt sie ab!Wenn es notwendig ist dann bekomme ich ihre Nummer sagte sie heute!
Hab danach gefragt sie soll mir eine Pension aussuchen aber da hat sie mir bis heute noch nicht drauf geanwortet!

Am Anfang war ich sehr entäuscht das sowas überhaupt gibt!Hab ich net gedacht,aber jetzt macht mir es richtig Spaß!!!

Wie ich sehe es gibt keine Ehrliche Frauen auf dieser Welt!
Und ich glaub diese ganzen Dating Seiten im Internet die kann man vergessen!
Das Beste wäre selber mal nach Russland oder in der Ukraine verreisen und dort mal sich selber umschauen!Was sagt ihr dazu?

Grüße
Josef

Hier noch so einen liebvollen Brief!!!
My love Josef,
Good morning. How you today slept at night?
I to not sleep at all... I to cry..
Yesterday I to come into a visa department to warn or tell him, that I cannot pay for the visa at present.
At me to shout and to me have told, that my documents already to go to embassy in Moscow.
I need to pay urgently now, time has not enough, literally till Monday.
It means is necessary to do till Saturday.
In the other case, me to bring in the bad list and I for all life shall have problems with the visa.
I to not want it, I to want to leave in your country and to not have problems when. You to understand me lovely?
We can come to Russia at the end of March if you to persuade your boss, ok?
Even now at me again it is not a lot of tears. Probably I was badly prepared for this process of registration.
As I yesterday came into bank in capital Ioshkar Ola, to me have told that you to take away money.
What for you now to write to me, what money hang-sent? You needed to redirect, why you to not do it?
Lovely to me also I very was now terrible to worry very much.
I ask you now before work to go to bank and to do to me to send the help.
Today I should go in any case to visa service.
Tears... Write to me, I to hope what to receive this letter now.
Probably I to spoil to you now mood, but at me as it is bad.
With love, a gentle kiss, yours Nadezhda
P.S. Lovely, I ask you to not have insult on me, i love you!!!


Könnte mir bitte der webmaster die beiden Fotos noch hier reinsetzen vom Paß.Hab die Fotos per E-Mail geschickt.Danke
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Antwort #11 - 10. März 2009 um 21:02
 
@ Minos!

Dieser Inlands-Pass ist zu 100 % ein Fake-Dokument! Der Stempel 123-001 kommt
aus Yoshkar-Ola, der Eintrag des Stempels 228-033 stimmt nicht mit dem Stempel
überein! Die Serie 88 04 ... wäre die Richtige gewesen, die 77 04 ... ist ein Fake!
Sie heißt Nadejda Viktorowna Trawina! Beim Eintrag des Geburtsortes Tjumen fehlt
die Angabe der Republik! Bei der Serien-Nummer im Oberen Teil sieht sieht man noch
deutlich das Nacharbeiten auf dem Papier an Hand der helleren Stellen bzw. der Linie!

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Grüße Stefan ... Smiley
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Antwort #12 - 10. März 2009 um 21:40
 
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Hallo Stefan,

möchte mich bedanken hier für Deine Hilfe!Bin auch sehr froh daß ich hier dieses Forum gefunden habe!
Die Verbindung hab ich nocht nicht abgebrochen mal sehen was noch rauskommt! Laut lachend

Grüße
Josef
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Antwort #13 - 10. März 2009 um 22:08
 
Die Stempelzahl sieht mir eher nach 121 aus, aber ich denke, er kommt tzrotzdem aus Y-O! Die Amtsunterschrift muss ich mal schauen, auf welchen Vergleichspässen die noch zu finden ist.

Tjumen liegt etwa 1000 Kilometer östlich von Scammers Paradise. Daher vielleicht auch der Versuch, durch diese Fakenummer die Herkunft aus Y-O zu verbergen.

Aber Vlad muss wohl wieder reichlich strunkelig gewesen sein, als er das Passbild einfügte. In seinem Suff hat er es über die oberen Sicherheitsmerkmale gesetzt!
Also Prost, Vlad, sauf mal schön weiter! Laut lachend Laut lachend Laut lachend

Nach meiner Kurzdurchsicht durch die Fakepässe ist das mal ein neuer Pass. Habe die Unterschrift noch icht gefunden. Werde wohl noch ein wenig weiter suchen!
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Re: Nadezhda / Nadejda <Lediigra@mail.ru>
Antwort #14 - 11. März 2009 um 17:47
 
Hallo an alle!
Hab heute wieder eine E-Mail bekommen!
Hab zu ihr heute geschrieben daß sie mir eine Pension oder ein billiges Hotel besorgen soll mit Adressen u.s.w.
Auch ob es dort einen Flughafen gibt und die soll mir paar Fotos schicken von ihrer Stadt.

Und hier ist die Antwort dazu:

Brief:
My love Josef,
I could not wait for a long time for your answer yesterday.
As it is very pleasant for me to receive always from you the letter.
The mood like has returned to me, but all the same to me is very lonely now.
It is necessary to wait only that you soon to be at me.
Lovely, you need to come in Moscow.
I to meet you at the airport.
You should choose itself which to you will approach. Ok?
I behind that to find it to meet you there.
From you I need to know details of flight only.
I with pleasure that you to sleep at our place.
But we to live in an one-room apartment and consequently I think it very inconveniently.
I to order hotel to you. I to not know precisely how many to cost number in day. Approximately 40-60 dollars.
But I shall learn still and then to order, ok?
Lovely, you can look a photo in Internet the city of Ioshkar Ola. You will live there.
I shall go home by a taxi. ok?
I to not have a photo of this city. But it is usual city. 250000 inhabitants.
When you to plan to come, approximately?
I to want to be very soon with you! I miss you! You will be with me in safety!
Only I cannot come back together to Germany. I very much to worry and to me from it is sad.
Write to me soon. With love, yours Nadezhda

Na was sagt ihr dazu?Was soll ich weiter schreiben oder soll ich den Kontakt abbrechen?

Grüße
Josef

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